...To surf or not to surf on Long Island...
"if you live on long island it should probably be a no-brainer"
Tobay - stands for Town of Oyster Bay - is a good place for pearl-diving
photo: Dave Birdman Cirillo, Surfer: MikedaBaker


1)You live near Long Island / New Jersey you have a gift, a total gift of some "world class" conditions. Not my words, Mike the Baker's. long beach tube

DaBaker seeks a space with a green room at Long Beach
Photo: David Birdman Cirillo, surfer: Mikedabaker

2) Our breaks are within 30 miles of one of the world's largest cities. Fortunately most metro New Yorkers live like they were in Iowa, not surrounded by water and fine beaches.

3) Adios wind angst. I've been relieved of 75% of my wind angst. If it ain't windy, I can probably go surfing. I'll take either.

4) To a wavesailing windsurfer, surfing could be likened to riding a wave, with the sail oversheeted, or neutralized -- not too shabby a feeling.


perfect azores

Joe Cirillo, Perfect Azores on L.I.

Photo by MikedaBaker: "The Perfect Storm, Halloween Eve, 1991", surfer: Joe Cirillo

5) Some conditions are not good for windsurfing, such as no wind (we get enough of that), and light offshore winds (we get more than our share of that!) are perfect for surfing.

6) The onshore waves we sail rarely compare with the organized, clean, steep faces of clean glassy or offshore surf at a decent break here.

7) surfboards instantly feel like work naturally well in the surf. A windsurf board has a lot of other design briefs including getting on a plane in flat water and going upwind, that can make them less fluid feeling on a wave.


Hurricane Floyd pleased surfers and windsurfers, anyone who managed both slept well.
Surfer: Mikedabaker, photo: Dave Birdman Cirillo

8) Simple & quick.

You could cover all your surfing needs with this huge long list of equipment:

  • 9-foot longboard
  • a leash
  • a few sticks of wax

--- No harness to put on, no pratting around with fins and rigging. In a few moments you paddle out, you surf.

9) To avoid a crowd, you go where they ain't. There's usually a break open a little ways down from the break where folk surf to be seen, or to be together.

10) Surf's more predictable. The rise and fall of the tides rule, versus wondering if the right amount of wind is going to show up at some point in the day. Every other week it's a dawn or evening patrol, with the rest of the day free.